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Sounds like Moderator Joannaslinky is on a powertrip or crusade to control this site. I think its total bullshit. Deleting peoples pictures for no reason is a joke! Get a life
! And Brenda8.... Keep posting those amazing hot pics!

Im sorry, I mean Brenda48cd.

That's right.
The absolute bare minimum as regards pic removal is that we think you are a cunt.
Surely that's reason enough!

I think there WAS an issue where "pure gay" pics (i.e no girliness in evidence) pictures were being removed using the pretext of one or other of the rules.

Hopefully that has now ceased.

The mods have a tedious job filtering through the pics that shouldn't be here (e.g. CP)

Brenda, can you confirm whether you are removing "pure gay" pictures per se ?

Not kicking off, just seeking confirmation for the avoidance of doubt.

In the beginning, Graeme created a site. Newbiebudes (NN).
Later, he created a site for the gay community and called it "NewBoyNudes" (the original NBN).
As it fairly common, the NBN site attracted the Transgendered community (even though not all TGs are gay/bi)
As time went by, and more TGs joined, the name was changed to "NewBudNudes" (the current NBN)
After a while, the "pure gays" started complaining that "their" site had been hijacked by TVs, so Greame set up "NewDudeNudes" (NDN) to cater for them.
... and later , to complete the set, created a lesbian site, "NewGalNudes" (NGN)

So, that answers the question as to why there are four sites.

The thing about the whole Str8LGBT community is that boundaries are blurred. No more so than in the TG section. Within the others, the mix and match of participants is relatively well defined. On NDN, guys are looking for guys, for example.

On NBN, the TVs are not all looking to only communicate with other TVs. Just read the sexual discussion and erotic stories forums to get an idea of now many TVs want to hook up with an admirer. NBN's participants are TVs seeking TVs, TVs not seeking anyone and TVs seeking admirers. To accommodate that last (and by far the largest) sector, we need to welcome admirers.

Most of the people who visit this site to look at pics want to see pics of t-girls. There is no reason, however, why our admirers shouldn't post pics for TVs to look at. After all, how often in the chatrooms (here and elsewhere) do people say "no pic, no chat". Admirers want to show off their wares, TVs might want to see what they're getting

So, for the benefit of the majority of the site, I see no reason why admirers shouldn't post pic of themselves.

There are also the cases of "old" NBN members who were here before the split - some of whom have paid subscriptions.

I do appreciate that there are some who don't want to look at cock pics. To be honest, I am one - they simply don't turn me on.

So, the best solution is to have "Hide Dicks" options, like on NN. That way, there would be no acrimony over the genre of pics posted.

Having answered your question and expounded my feelings in a calm, no-agressive manner, can you answer mine, please?

Thank you, Brenda.

I know I was called a "liberal", in a way that somehow made it an insult, but as a member of a highly persecuted community, I can't help feel that it's just wrong to exclude any other minority that is closely allied to us.

As you say, there are four sites and there is a lot of crossover between them. For example, there is a "lesbians" photo category on NN. If we were setting firm boundaries, then they should only ever appear on NGN. On the other hand, a lot (and I mean a lot) of guys are turned on by lesbian action. So, the distinction of what's appropriate for only one site is a bit blurred.

On here, there are specific male categories (e.g. Dicks, Hairy, Mature Men), so there is no intention of the site owner to exclude all men - as indeed you recognise. An old naked guy flashing his hairy dick is clearly allowed.

So, what it comes down to is "male gay sex" pics. Are there really so many of these that allowing them on the site would cause a lot of grief? I am not interested in them, generally, but I just tune them out - in much the same way as I do to other things I am not interested in.

If male gay sex pics are the sole target of your pruning shears, then provided the posters are informed why and suggested that they post on NDN instead, then I don't really have a problem with that. It's not like you need my permission, obviously, but do bear in mind that I was a mod here long before you joined, so I am aware of a lot of history here and what the job's like It's not an easy job, I know - for example, there are some pics posted today by ec636, which appear to be pure gay sex (BJ), but if you look at some of the other pictures in the set, one of them is wearing stockings. Tricky, huh?

One problem is that in Jan 2013 when NDN was created for the gays, and NBN was redesignated from gay to gurlie, the upload categories weren't adjusted to match the apparent new purposes of the two sites - except for the bar on crossdresser uploads on NDN.

Additionally, gays who'd paid for Premium suddenly found themselves stranded on the 'wrong' site.

This leaves moderators treading a difficult path. Personally, I unhesitatingly remove what I consider to be 'hard-core gay' such as soundings, as I think they belong on NDN. Some months ago, I saw a bunch of such pix from a newbie, and messaged him, telling him about NDN and inviting him to put the pictures there instead. He did.

Unfortunately, I hadn't noticed the newbie had stockings on, and I later got some stick from the NDN mods, wondering why on earth I'd given them the bother of modding-off a bunch of crossdresser pix. (They're pretty ruthless about anything that looks fem, over there! A hint of frilly bits, and it's off.)

The natives are revolting, eh?

In fairness to Mr NN, the software updates started to happen within a few weeks (improved front page, etc) but it was on the NN site alone. He did tell me that he'd give some attention to NBN "when he wasn't having to spend 14 hrs a day on NN" - which is a horribly open-ended commitment, of course.

But one can't really blame him for initially prioritising on a site that's 20 times as popular as NBN (or maybe more). More recently, they've now got the Profile Reporting button for use by non-freebies, and the Moderator Gag, for instance.

One day soon, I'll seek to get an indication of when the new software might be copied over to NBN. And I daresay it's not only Jackie who's wondering what "soon" means!

I fucking hated "Lord of the Flies" when I read it in school - but now I sort of understand it.

We too 'did' that book in school (ooo, showing my age) and I'm not sure of the connection to this thread! I did enjoy the story, though.

(For those who don't know, it's a post-apocalypse account of a bunch of kids stranded on an island who start their new society well enough, but descend into savagery.)

Perhaps Re is picturing Mr.NN being chased through the jungle by a screaming face-painted Brenda with a wooden spear.

Totally aposite!

did you mean apposite?

Mini is just an Egg head liberal that hasn't done a real days work in her life! So why do you bother to respond to her? she sits in her ivory tower and thinks she can Lord over us all because of her supreme intellect.

she offers nothing and is nothing. I ignore nothingness unless I'm planning on travelling into space. That is an instance where nothing is important. Mini is not. Please move on.

I've set my pruning shears to mini.

If you don't like the site leave. There is absolutely NOTHING forcing you to be here! You are always the contrarian. You live to upset the apple cart. Please just leave and let us enjoy the site.

You seem to want the site to be like it was a year ago. Fair enough! There are MANY sites that allow web steals and all sorts of crap. I say find one and make it your home! Did you know that there were posters that had feces in their pics? Did you like those? Do you want them back??? I can send you the links to their sites. I'm sure you'll love them, because you're so full of crap. You can re-load there.

Wait you can't re-load! You're already full of it!!!

Why doesn't mini try PMing people that their pics aren't appropriate. Why doesn't she take that heat? Oh and BTW do it for free! So Mods should tell people why they're fuck ups as if the fuck ups won't retaliate? Has mini ever lived in the real world? Gone to a bar? Been outside her ivory tower? Been to Walmart??? I think not.

NewBudNudes, THE site for Transgenders, Transexuals, Gurlz, Crossdressers and more! OK so the MORE is ambiguous, but let's be real here! Admin left us alone on the island. We have to do the best with what we have. Mini doesn't like it? WTF do I care!! She can swim off the island! She contributes NOTHING!!

She is a coward. She hides here in the forum to protest. Who reads the forum? 2% of the members? 1%? she pisses on US the people who spend our hard earned $$$$$ to be premium members to support the site. WE spend our time supporting this site by moderating for FREE and this idiot thinks she can run things better???

SPEND THE FUCKING MONEY CUNT!!! THEN I WILL CARE!!!

Good heavens, it seems the momentum of our little carpet-bombing operation over on NewbieNudes yesterday is now risking collateral damage to civilians way outside the target area!

Perhaps that's what happens when Americans are involved

I don't like the tone of the last four posts, and much of the content is pretty dubious as well. If someone's participation is mostly Forum-oriented then I don't see anything wrong with that. And Mini and I sometimes don't agree on site procedure but life's like that sometimes.

And rounding up external traffic towards this site is actually quite a valuable contribution, by the way.